Comment autopsy: Russ on fundamental Christianity
Received the following comment from Russ on my previous post.
Hey,
Just for fun, what do you think the odds are that this verse, written about, oh, about 3000 years ago, would still be true in our scientific would of today?
Thus says the LORD: “If heaven above can be measured, And the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel For all that they have done, says the LORD. [Jer 31:37]
Only God could have known that the universe would still be without measure today and the that earth could never be fathomed to its core by mankind.
Here is your great oppertunity to prove the Bible wrong. All you have to do is meause the heavens and drill to the center of the earth. Go for it!
OK. Lab coat, check. Goggles, check. Rubber gloves, check. Better make that two pairs, I don’t want to catch anything. Scalpel, check.
Cursory examination shows relatively sound grammar and spelling. Sensible paragraph splits, complete sentences, correct use of punctuation marks. No closed quotation marks for the Bible verse, world spelled ‘would’, opportunity spelled with an ‘e’, measure mistyped. Not bad at all, actually.
We proceed with an incision to the organs of relevancy, and immediately notice some serious infection: The original post was a humorous list of signs to expose the absurdity and closed-mindedness of fundamentalist Christian claims and beliefs, but the comment tries to simultaneously ‘prove’ the omnipotence of the Christian God, as well as challenge the author to try and disprove the correctness of the Bible. Thus only incidental relevance to the post.
We now proceed with an incision to the quivering, bloated and purple logic center, where we discover several large and well-developed fallacy tumors: The two largest ones seem to have become entwined into some kind of super-tumor, combining the stupefying effects of Ad Ignorantum and Straw Man fallacies into something Kent Hovind would be proud of. Russ simplifies a rather vague and obscure metaphorical Bible verse into ‘physically measure the heavens and drill to the center of the Earth’, creating a Straw Man that is easy to burn, since even a mentally retarded six-year old will be able to tell you that this is impossible. Russ somehow seems to think that because the Christian God is also quoted with stating the impossibility of these actions, He must therefore exist and be omnipotent. WTF? Never mind that physical measurement and drill-bits do not appear in any of the Bibles on my bookshelf, or that the original Bible verse does not say “you will not have measured the heavens and earth by 2008″, as Russ seems to think and base his entire argument on. He seems to be blind to the fact that it only says “if you measure the heavens and earth, I will abandon Israel”, which could have happened any time in the past 2000 years. I doubt anyone would have noticed, the way things are going over there. But Russ then goes one step further, and misplaces the burden of proof by stating that if scientists are unable to ‘drill to the center of the Earth’, their failure will somehow prove the existence and omnipotence of the Christian God. How can someone smart enough to use a computer and type an English sentence be so stupid as to miss the stupendous idiocy of those two arguments? Perhaps we will be better able to answer this when we open the belief lobe later on. There are several smaller tumors in the logic center, blocking the flow of common sense to the rest of the comment, but they hardly seem as important as the super-tumor above.
Spent some time trying to find the scientific knowledge lobe, as it is shriveled and atrophied due to a lack of common sense, but also because the grotesquely overgrown belief lobe has been pressing against it for several years, perhaps even since early childhood. Through the stretched outer lining of the belief node I could see a Bible quote, two all-caps ‘LORD’s and an overpowering belief that the Bible is correct for no other reason than because the Bible claims to be correct. Didn’t want to open that up, in case some of it splashed up into my face.
In the science lobe I had to use microscope, but could detect no discernible evidence of knowledge about astrophysics and radio telescopes, or the current body of scientific knowledge regarding the age and size of the universe. Also, knowledge about plate tectonics, the temperatures, pressures, chemical properties, magnetic field effects or even depth of the layers of the Earth seems to be completely missing.
To conclude, the comment was not only infected with non-relevance, but fatally riddled with logical fallacies, brought about by an excess of belief and a serious deficiency in common sense and scientific knowledge. As is often the case, these factors acted as multipliers of the symptoms of stupidity, resulting in the death of the comment. Some things are just too pathetically weak to survive in the light of reason, and this poor thing hopefully died without too much suffering.
Now, somebody should come and clean this mess up, because I need a shower and a stiff drink. Signing out.
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